BJ Baldwin Shoots & Kills man in Vegas.

"CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever" (carsoffortlangley) 04/28/2020 at 21:36 • Filed to: None

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“ Justifiable homicide” apparently. I feel like this is kinda underreported?

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CRider > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 21:45

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Well he’s truly earned the “ballistic” moniker  now 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 21:46

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It’s not reported because it doesn't fit certain narratives. 

PowderHound > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 21:46

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I read about it but I think it’s because I semi follow Motorsport stuff. I would imagine there will be some more stories once BJ starts to talk more. He is usually extremely active on Instagram and has been understandably quiet there. I haven’t really seen any official statements from him so the news story basically ends at man shoots other man in self defense. Unless BJ or the cops start to be more candid about what happened it’s going to be a short news story like what was posted. 

PyramidHat > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 21:47

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Damn.  Though, doesn’t this sound like a hit?  

InFierority Complex > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 21:48

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“ was eating dinner with his girlfriend in their car ... around 2 a.m.”

This just seems strange.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/28/2020 at 21:50

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Eh, I am not really comfortable with the idea of justifiable homicide. Not really something we have in Canada.

Why do the police get to make that call? It should be murder and you go before the court.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 21:55

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Because there will be more investigation, but there likely is video evidence that two common street thugs found what they thought was an easy target in a parking lot, then one got what he had coming. The fact that the dead guy’s girlfriend was caught on camera swiping the gun before the police arrived says a lot. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/28/2020 at 21:57

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I dunno man. It isn’t something I support.

If some armed guy broke into my house and I killed him. I'm getting charged with manslaughter or murder. 

Just Jeepin' > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 22:02

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It’s extremely expensive to get charged with anything in the U.S. The system is broken from top to bottom.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 22:04

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And it shouldn’t be that way. You shouldn’t be harassed for trying to defend yourself. If someone breaks into to your home, that’s their silly game, and a bullet is their stupid prize. We shouldn’t be afraid to defend ourselves. You shouldn't have to die because some scum of the earth decided to break into your house to get their drug fix. 

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 22:06

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So you think it would be right if you got a murder charge because you ended a guy who broke into your house and tried to kill your wife?

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > InFierority Complex 04/28/2020 at 22:12

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Not these days, my friends are keeping all kinds of late hours. 

ranwhenparked > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 22:12

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Well, so he’s got  one thing in common with William S. Burroughs.

Nom De Plume > PyramidHat 04/28/2020 at 22:24

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No Fletch art thou.

Messy and unorganized idiot spraying bullets without hitting anyone.

Partner is unarmed and acts only as accessory

Dead

PowderHound > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/28/2020 at 22:25

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It was reported though. BJ just   isn’t actually famous where anyone in the general masses gives a shit so the story has no staying power. This story ends up as man defends self, kills attacker. End of story. 

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 22:42

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This is a fundamental difference between the states and Canada  many people don’t understand, the only time we are justified in using violence against another person is after we have been tried, which I agree with 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/28/2020 at 22:49

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I think that it should be up to the courts (jury) to see if my actions met the VERY high standard of self defence, not for a police department to determine whether or not to file charges.

Gerry197 > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 22:57

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Depends on the circumstances of how you killed him. Did he try simply to break into your home and then you shot him? that would be murder.

However, if he started to shoot at your wife first and you had to shoot him to stop him, how on earth can you not support that?

The point here is innocent until proven guilty. So far, not enough evidence to say otherwise, but there will be an investigation.  Maybe they have enough evidence to already say it wasn’t manslaughter, like video evidence. 

DipodomysDeserti > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 22:59

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Police collect evidence and hand it to a prosecutor who then decides. Here’s a primer:

Not all states issue a justifiable homicide release or even a no charge. My friend killed a guy in self defense years ago.  Went to jail for the night, and was released the next day after the investigation. Theoretically they could go back and charge him.

Courts here are ruinously expensive, and you’d probably lose all your income while in court. That’s a bad outcome for cases of obvious self defense. In my friends situation a kid came at his truck with a knife and came through his window to get at him. There were a whole bunch of people witness to it, so it would have been pointless to go through a whole trial and ruin my friend’s life.

He still got sued by the family, and his insurance paid out like $200k.

Gerry197 > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 23:06

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He isn’t really famous enough to make the news . Not a lot of detail in that news clip, but apparently the police feel they have enough evidence that supports him defending himself and his passenger from two people, one of them armed.

I mean, you have to pull at some straws to put the blame on him. His was in his own vehicle in a parking lot and approached by two men, one of them was armed and fired into the vehicle.

BJ has a concealed carry permit, my guess is the other person did not and probably a rap sheet or criminal history that would make this an easy assessment by the police.  

The police can make obvious decisions on intent, like say an armed criminal vs a citizen sitting in his own car. What exactly did you think BJ did wrong here, pick fight and start shooting at two guys walking by his car?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 23:11

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Then your life is ruined after having everything ripped away from you due to the trial, all because you didn’t want to die because someone was trying to kill you. It’s not fair at all. Tax dollars shouldn’t be wasted because someone was being a piece of shit and a  citizen legally spent a few cents solving the problem. Family members shouldn’t be allowed to sue either. That’s another waste of tax dollars because clearly if they don’t understand why it happened, they are probably the reason the deceased was the way that they were.

BeaterGT > InFierority Complex 04/28/2020 at 23:13

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Nothing strange about fourth meal. 

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/28/2020 at 23:25

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A police department may decide to make an arrest/not make an arrest at the scene, which is to say to initially charge someone or not in a homicide, but their investigation is always going to go the District Attorney’s office where they’ll make the final decision about prosecution (or not, as the case may be). If the District Attorney later decides to prosecute the case, they’ll have an arrest warrant issued by a court and the police will make the arrest. Then the usual in-custody arraignment/bail/conditions of release (or not) process plays out, followed by preliminary hearings and the rest of the pre trial process.

In the alternative, they could also decide to present the case to a grand jury, who will decide to either return an indictment for prosecution, or not. If the grand jury returns an indictment and the defendant isn’t already in custody , the defendant will be taken into custody and proceed through the the arraignment/bail/ect. process.

Whatever decision police make is only a preliminary one, not a final decision.

DipodomysDeserti > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 04/28/2020 at 23:56

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My buddy got a shoutout  in the show Gangland ! They didn’t mention that he had a CCW, just that he put three approximately 1/2” holes in some moron.

DipodomysDeserti > InFierority Complex 04/29/2020 at 00:07

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In ‘n Out is open until 2am.

In ‘n Out and chill.

But yeah, this does sound like a drug deal gone wrong. In which case, who gives a shit.

CRider > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/29/2020 at 00:14

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In the US (in some states, at least ) if two people break into your house, and you kill one, the survivor can be charged with felony murder because his action (commiting the robbery) lead to the death of his  accomplice.

CRider > DipodomysDeserti 04/29/2020 at 00:47

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I doubt BJB needs to get his drugs from 2 AM hamburger parking lot dealers.

DipodomysDeserti > CRider 04/29/2020 at 01:09

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I was implying selling, not buying, as recreational marijuana is leagal in NV, and someone like “BJB” is going to have better access to opioids than two morons with no plan.

If you’re insinuating he was a buyer, there’s no telling what someone addicted to opioids will do.

The immediate shooting indicate to me, “they knew what they had”.

CRider > DipodomysDeserti 04/29/2020 at 01:25

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I somehow doubt this guy needs to sell drugs to pay his bills. 

DipodomysDeserti > CRider 04/29/2020 at 01:37

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Anyone doing photo shoots wearing Monster Energy merch can be earning a lot lot more in trafficking.

Most people aim to do more than pay their bills.

I’ll add the caveat that I have no idea who this guy is, but have known much more legitimate looking people who made money doing sketchy stuff.

Personal experience tells me hits like this usually aren’t random. Doubly so when everyone is locked down.

CRider > DipodomysDeserti 04/29/2020 at 03:05

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W ear ing Monster En ergy “ merch” takes on a slightly different meaning when they’re actually sponsoring your racing. You know- because he’s a professional driver with many major wins to his name including 2 back to back overall wins in the Baja 1000 (which he Iron Man’d, btw) and one at the Mint 400. BJ Baldwin is not a poser no matter how much you hate the logo he wears.

PyramidHat > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/29/2020 at 05:56

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I thinks the district attorney makes the call...

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 04/29/2020 at 07:09

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Even Bob Marley was fine with self defense

nerd_racing > InFierority Complex 04/29/2020 at 07:34

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I’ve lost track of time working on cars and eaten dinner at 2 am before.  Especially if a place is open that late...